A very personal view on the election that was finally concluded on 15th December 2016.
Well, it’s now allover but does that include the shouting, or is that to come? UKIP has, forthe first time in a long time, elected what amounts to a new NEC. The newly-elected members will, I think, have their own views on the conduct of the election but that is a matter for another article.
However let me first pay tribute to some of those who did stand but did not manage to get elected, some of whom were kind enough to listen to and understand the matters I brought to the NEC during the election: Rob McWhirter, who brought an irritating fact-based analysis to matters but always sought to do what was best; Sebastian Fairweather, a good sensible person who always listened before commenting; Andrew Moncrieff, who worked tirelessly in the weeks running up to the GE making sure that the manifesto was the best of every party.
Then there were three people with whom I worked closely during the General Election: Roger Gravett, George Konstantinidis and Alan Love. They represented what is good in UKIP and whilst we don’t agree on everything, what they wanted to do was always for the good of the party.
So who has been elected from the 85,000 votes cast by 12,000 plus
members? In alphabetical order; Steve Crowther, Katie Fanning, Fiona Mills, Mick McGough, Paul Oakley, Anish Patel and Piers Wauchope. One interesting point are the votes cast. These seven candidates received just over 16,000 votes from a potential pool of 85,000, so 5-1 votes cast were for other candidates, but I am sure this will be discussed in coming weeks.
So who have party members elected? The group of seven ‘new’ members,
I submit, fall into two distinct groups – those who are well known names in the party and those who are less well known. Three of those elected, Wauchope, McGough and Crowther, are clearly the most well known of the pack. The first two have been very active in the party via social media and both have regularly stood in elections including last year’s General Election. McGough was very closely involved in the Better Off Out
campaign and has served two terms on the NEC, resigning last year over a point of principle, along with Victoria Ayling. He is a blunt, no-nonsense, straight-talking person and will be an asset to the NEC again.
Wauchope is another person who has served on the NEC for two terms. He is known for his ability to smooth ruffled feathers and stay calm when things get out of hand. It was
he who proposed the accepted settlement over the difficulty in Wales, allowing members to vote for who they wanted as candidates in the Welsh assembly.
Crowther is a completely different character altogether. He has not held any elected position in UKIP and was a part-time press officer for the South West, where he resides. He was for a time RO for the South West before
being asked to become chairman by Farage in 2010. Many people say he steered UKIP through troubled times after the 2010 election; others say he manipulated the NEC, ensuring that they always gave the decision that the leader wanted. In the end he lost control of the NEC in late 2015 and much of the ensuing difficulties could be said to arise from the fact that the NEC finally lost patience with their chairman. History will be the judge of this.
The other group consists of Mills, Patel, Fanning, and Oakley. The first three are very new to the party, having their year of joining 2014 in common. They all joined in those heady days in the run up to the European Elections and have been active since. It is difficult to know why they stood out particularly in the NEC elections. I met Mills before she was appointed to the seat in Carlisle and was very impressed with her as
a potential candidate. Her involvement with the NHS gives her knowledge
of an area vital to the party and I feel she will add much to the knowledge base of the NEC.
Anish Patel is an irritating member of YI whose presence is always seen wherever there is campaigning to do. His enthusiasm is never ending and he never refuses to do anything that is asked of him. Like my friend Alan Love (not elected in Northern Ireland) he is always there. His election, along with that of Katie Fanning, were the two wild cards that will now fill seats on the NEC. Fanning, I have to say, is a person I do not know well. She is also a person whose name keeps popping up and again and her workload is always praised. She was one of the candidates for the NEC who published a full manifesto. She has some good ideas but she also echoes the complaints of others about the format and constitution of the NEC. I hope she will take some time to learn more of the actual workings of the NEC before seeking to wield her axe. Patel and Fanning can probably thank the YI members for their election yesterday.
Finally Paul Oakley. I first met Oakley shortly after taking up the post as Head of Candidates. I then kept running into him at numerous branch hustings which I was required to chair because of, shall we say, little local difficulties. He was and is one of the most able candidates I have met. Why was he not selected? Because UKIP branches are still determined not to select the best candidate but the local candidate. Please do not take that as a criticism but as an observation. Oakley is a barrister and perhaps needs to chill out a little when addressing hustings meetings but he will be a real asset to the NEC.
So going forward, the party is at a crossroads. It lacks a real professional structure, it has finance problems and the members still need to decide whether they are a pressure group or a political party.
I would say one final thing: over my time with UKIP, without the drive that has come together under this banner there would have been no Brexit. Without Farage, with his huge number of faults,
there would have been no Brexit. I don’t believe in conspiracies but I do believe that people on both sides of the divide need to think before speaking and if we are to be a political party, occasionally saying nothing is the best policy.
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68 Comments on “The UKIP NEC Election 2016”
I haven’t looked too exhaustively but I am unable to find NEC election results. ie Votes cast for all candidates.
Please send to my email address below.
Dave Ollier
Chairman Rugby and Bulkington Branch.
Two points:
1) Thanks, David!
2) What happens when a candidate is chosen by a branch but only, say, 5 of the 100 members attend? Could that indicate the bulk of the branch don’t like the proffered candidates?
Rob. Re 2. That happened with me. Branch had ceased to operate, neighbouring branch organised PPC selection candidates hustling, only 4 attendees eligible to vote. Eventually I stood, against current Lib Dem leader.
Local view was something is better than nothing. Thoughts?
Something is better than nothing yes, bit, in a simikar case, the considered NEC view on choice of candidate, in a by-election, is possibly better than branch view?
Alan.
With regard to your last but one paragraph, my heart sank when I saw that Mr. Crowther had been elected onto the NEC, bearing in mind as you say his previous record as party chairman. That is why I stated that it could still be ‘business as usual’, resulting in the party becoming extinct.
Mine too (heart. Sinking. although I quite like the guy) but I am struck by how few we are, who engage with UK-D , compared to the thousands who voted.
Thoughts?
Alan,
It is disheartening that so few members interact with this site, perhaps they do not know about it, but they could learn such a lot and we could learn from them how they feel about things.
With how things are rapidly escalating out of control in the wider World, we really need to communicate and keep in touch exchanging views and keeping abreast of events.
Dear Aidan
I don’t think you’ll find Douglas’ view of direct democracy would satisfy’s JRE’s! And I don’t think we’ve said MPs shouldn’t have a whip – I might be wrong on that, but members and voters do have a right to expect their MPs to be united at national level, don’t they?
Dear Donald Duck,
I am not aware of the occasion with Emily Thornberry (of whom my opinion could hardly be lower by the way) or Gina Miller. I am curious. What were the policies he advocated to which you refer and which you would oppose?
Aidan
ACUP,
You need to look it up when Carswell shared a platform with the above and actually agreed with them saying something along the lines of: “We do not want a Farage like Brexit”, in other words he would prefer a ‘soft’ brexit. But when he says ‘we’ on whose behalf is he speaking because it certainly aint mine!
I have two more questions to ask; what has happened to (punched really hard in the face but no bruising) Woolfe and, (I have my team in place but cannot cope)Diane James?
Are they still drawing down EU money to pay for their staff in UKIP’s name, in other words how are they funding their ‘independent’ activities in Brussels? Seems a reasonable question to ask does anyone know the answer?
Dear Aidan,
Thank you for that, these are shocking amounts of money that I feel she certainly does not deserve, to me this is sheer greed and selfishness. If I was one of her UKIP constituents I would be doing everything in my power to have her deselected, I did not care for her much before she let us down big time, now I feel only contempt for the way in which she has used the party and IMO betrayed her constituents.
The same goes for Steven Woolfe as I presume he is doing the same.
Agreed DD, D James should stand down and let a bona fide UKIP MEP take her place; the same goes for S Woolfe.
Neither of them are entitled to fill those places now, but lining their own pockets is obviously more important than fair play and regard for people who voted UKIP in good faith in 2014.
Panmelia,
I absolutely agree, in fact, if she had any decency about her she would pay back the £20,000 that was spent on her vain and egotistical leadership campaign, which resulted in her short tenancy. But I guess that greed and selfishness has taken precedence, the very thing we accuse other politicians of committing, others become infected with the same meme.
To be fair then there should have been calls for all four MEP’s to step down, Bashir, Atkinson, Woolfe and James. This is were NF failed to understand the problem with the Welsh Assembly elections once elected the party (any party) has no control over the representative
David,
Quite right, they should all stand down, but I mentioned Woolfe and James because so much hope was placed on them and they both let us down badly. However, I suppose the one thing you can say is that that at least we found out in time, that neither of them would have been suitable leaders, so their expenses are worth the price to pay for what would have turned out to be a disaster.
Icini,
You may call it ‘bitching’ but I call it constructive criticsm, you do not need to worry too much as no one appears to take any notice. But if all you want is positive comments then there is not much point to this form existing.
Peter’s reasons are one thing, removing his name from the results list quite another.
The ballot papers were returned to a printers near Southampton. Who transported them to the count at Derby? When and how? How were they stored before being taken to Derby?
I have the distinct feeling that Carswell will rejoin the Tories before the next election. He is, in my opinion, a Tory plant and has done nothing to promote UKIP that I have seen. He is also a great friend of Hannan who would like to see the end of UKIP. Deselect him and Hamilton and let them sit as an independent.
The NEC election was unwieldy, to say the least, but I’m glad that some young people were elected, and if that was down to YI, good for them!
David,
Why on Earth people would vote in Steve Crowther again beats me, they must be gluttons for punishment.
I am gutted.
Dee,
I am more than gutted, I feel the situation is becoming hopeless and nothing will change. It will just be business as usual and with these people on board we will never become electable.
DD,
That is the root of my concerns. UKIP is failing us when we need it most. That of course is no reflection on the majority of decent members, but they are the only ones who can change it. If I had the resources to start a new party then I would consider doing so.
David,
Perhaps we need to see what Arron Banks does or JRE, but I would rather it was someone else.
The party presently has Head Office, Regions, and, Branches.
I think it is worth raising the possibility of members within branches being allowed to start birthing UKIP Political Wards restricted to members within such Wards at their own £expense. I had raised this as an issue and “await” positive responses. It is not in the party’s best interests to continue as we are!
I voted for you R.B., based on your posts here if it’s any consolation. You appear more qualified than most of those actually elected.
Rhys, I too voted for you but, in some regions, members were encouraged to vote exclusively for local candidate(s), even if only one of members’ seven votes was used. Fuller CVs may have helped but not necessarily. What is obvious is that a great deal of much-needed talent is wasted.
Rhys,
If it is any consolation I voted for you as well, but I do not think anyone I voted for got selected.
Me too!
Cannot wait to see how the newly structured NEC deal with Douglas Carswell, that is if they deal with him at all.
I don’t see how Carswell can remain in UKIP given his extremist Libertarian position on foreign immigration & his personality type that goes with it. This is the issue that brought him into such a bitter conflict with Farage, & if Nuttall reaffirms the policy (& if he doesn’t he risks UKIP collapsing from one of its cornerstone being ripped out) I have little doubt that C. will open a personal war with him to in the same way. Either that or he’ll bail & jump back to the Conservative Party.
Ajax,
It is not looking like Nuttall is going to take him to task, unless it has happened behind closed doors. But my opinion of him is that he does what he wants anyway, and there is no whip to pull him up is there? So he will just do enough to get himself elected again whether it be with us or the Cons, he possesses no strands of loyalty or convictions, just about the worse kind of politician you can think of IMO.
I knew Carswell was a bit weird when I saw his pic of Gandhi in the Clacton By-election HQ, 2014. To think that I campaigned for that double turncoat (Tory-UKIP-Tory) riles my pips.
Panmelia,
I dare say he was a big fan of Nelson Mandela and Mohammed Ali as well, so that tells us all we need to know about him really.
William,
If he keeps going down this road with Carswell on board and others like him, then he is heading for a car crash because we simply will not put up with it. I am praying for an NEC with teeth and guts (sorry to be so anatomical here), otherwise we will be dragging a torso around and the situation will be hopeless.
Dee,
My view exactly trying to get through to the PTB is like trying to p…s in the wind, but the biggest losers will not be just us, but the remaining 17.4 million souls that put their faith in UKIP. It is like watching a horse sink in quicksand, it could be rescued but it flails out against it.
Oh DD it so could be rescued! There are still lots of members left who know what should be done, if only their voices could be heard.
Dee,
Could you not get them to comment on this forum?
They do!
@ACUP In my view that current constitutional text is being increasingly exposed as wholly inadequate by events & should be re-written. I am not a Libertarian, & with the vast majority of the membership & the Party’s voters aren’t either as far as I can see.
(As a side-issue, I suspect that it was originally written & approved by people who didn’t really understand what the term ‘Libertarian’ actually means, or its practical political consequences).
Have you seen Ray Catlin’s suggestion for a new constitution? It might be a better starting point for discussion than the existing one.
The word “libertarian” is open to interpretation as to what it means in practice. Better that the party constitution states what it stands for in clear unambiguous English. That would be a refreshing change in politics.
Agreed, & an article solely on this on UKIP Daily is a good idea