Last night’s hustings for the UKIP leadership was held in Westminster at the Emmanuel Centre. All the candidates were present for a change; Paul Nuttal, Suzanne Evans, Peter Whittle and John Rees-Evans. Of course, if two of those candidates have a secret pact, about which more in a moment, then we really face a choice of three.
Before the hustings my knee-jerk responses to the candidate list had been to feel uneasy about Nuttall and an absolute no to Evans for the disloyal and disparaging remarks that she has been making habitually for a year and a half and for her dream of taking UKIP onto the centre ground (whatever that might be). As to Whittle I had seen him in action at the London Mayoral hustings last year. He was out of his depth on a stage that included characters he should have wiped the floor with. His habit of punctuating his speech with “you know” was irritating. Frank Bruno’s perpetual “know what I mean ‘arry” was vaguely endearing at least. As for John Rees-Evans I’d never heard of him before his moment in the sun over a gay donkey.
Attendance was good for an October weekday night. I’d say around 150 people. The hall was full with just a few seats to spare. I was expecting fewer members than last time imagining that they were world weary from all the shenanigans and less interested in a contest with a foregone conclusion (according to Ladbrokes). But I was wrong. The atmosphere was positive, quite a buzz in fact. I spotted three MEPs in the audience and two NEC members.
I’m not going to go over what each candidate said. UKIP Daily readers will have other hustings they can attend and there is YouTube for anyone who cannot get to a hustings. Members should make up their own minds about what is said. I’ll just say it’s a case of spot the difference with each candidate saying how much they agreed with the others. Quite a love in really. One of the themes was putting the past behind us, forgiveness, and uniting. They united so much that no-one disagreed with anything another candidate said. Nonetheless, the candidates came over well. That could be due to an improved sound system but each was an effective enough speaker.
Judging by audience reaction I’d say Ladbrokes have it about right with Nuttall the clear favourite. Evans and Whittle were about equal but outside London Whittle may not fare so well; so little known in some places, perhaps, is the party’s culture spokesman. Thus, Ladbrokes putting Evans second is probably right.
Whittle did quite well because it was about four minutes into his speech before the first “you know” appeared. I will be voting tactically for Whittle, so abhorrent to me is Evans coming second. This probably means I am a bad person because the mood was definitely one of reconciliation, of letting bygones be bygones as Nuttall phrased it. But forgiveness in the absence of apology is for the saintly only. Evans offered no apology for her disparaging comments on the membership last year and this, for joining Vote Leave which “fought UKIP” according to Matthew Elliot, instead of standing with the Party. It turned my stomach to see Evans copying the prevailing dogma of the evening. There was no mention of her moving UKIP to the centre ground as announced on This Week but a short while ago, nor explanation, when she got to immigration, of how at a fringe event at the Llandudno conference she was urging people not to mention immigration, Nigel or UKIP in the referendum campaign. The Party was no longer “toxic” it seems, as she claimed recently, for she wished to lead the Party of racists and nativists after all. Suddenly we were wonderful people who were taking Britain out of the EU. Evans was now UKIP after all and, as luck would have it, just in time for the leadership campaign.
One quality I look for in a leader is judgement. Hers for the past 18 months has been calamitous for she was backtracking on more or less everything she had at some point said. An apostate seeing the light and returning to the fold? Or an opportunist saying what she realised needed to be said but believing something else? In truth, she is an intellectual light weight with no real convictions to argue and certainly not with conviction politician of the night Paul Nuttall. Her vision is of herself. And at the end, when she was the last speaker in the summing up, she appeared ecstatic saying “isn’t this wonderful. The positivity is so energising”. For which, I say, read “isn’t it wonderful I am back”.
But I do believe it is time for the party to come together. If Evans is to be deputy leader, as some think likely particularly if she comes second, then I am trying to imagine whether I could accept that. If she apologises, admits she got some things wrong, and promises not to diss the Party again when interviewed by the media, then I am willing to swallow hard in the interests of the Party. But we are owed an apology. It would be the decent thing to make that apology now.
Is there a pact between Evans and Nuttall? Evans remarked on This Week that she and Nuttall were friends and were in frequent telephone discussion. It’s plausible therefore. But I cannot say for certain. We’ll know once Nuttall becomes leader. If he gives Evans of all people a prominent role in the Party that she has so egregiously slandered, and if he does this in the face of the many, many members who are mightily aggrieved with her, then Nuttall will betray a lamentable misjudgement of his own and disdain for the membership.
The leadership campaign is almost certainly a coronation of Nuttall and the only interest is whether Whittle can overhaul Evans. So I shall shortly turn to the NEC elections coming up for I see three headbangers are going to stand. God help us.
When my mother, Mrs Yeoman, named me Stout it was because she wanted me to be stout of heart. Mostly I am. But if the headbangers get into the ascendancy I will be sorely tested.
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39 Comments on “UKIP Leadership – To the Westminster hustings!”
From my experience of 25 years in education, I know that teachers with left wing bias have no scruples about pushing their own political views onto children who are easily manipulated.
The same kind of thing goes on in universities where the peer pressure to conform is even greater than that in schools.
If 1000 people support Evans and 10000 detest her then giving her a role is a greater risk to unity than simply ignoring her. Surely it’s her supporters that should stomach her non-appointment in the interests of unity.
Why no mention of John Rees-Evans in your interesting and insightful report Stouty?
How did he perform?
I thought he was the most frank and intriguing candidate in the LBC discussion; and the only one who actually sounded like a conviction politician.
Have you seen this short video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZxj-Kw3URQ
John seems an interesting guy, and has obviously had more involvement with UKIP than I was aware of.
He does seem interesting but I leave readers to view a hustings and decide that for themselves. As the Chairman’s email explained one of the hustings will be live streamed so members unable to attend can still see the candidates in action.
My focus is on the horror of Mrs Evans and to encourage members to follow the bookies and vote for whoever is third – currently Whittle – to try and stop Evans coming second. No disrespect to John at all.
And I should add that we check on that at voting time. My fear is that Whittle and Rees-Evans together have enough votes to displace Evans but singly do not and so she gets second place.
I share your gloom that Suzanne Evans is even on the ballot paper.
Like many others (including Nigel?), at first I thought that she would be an asset to UKIP.
However, her performance over the last 18 months swiftly convinced me (and Nigel?) that she is in fact ‘toxic’ for the party.
Now where have I heard that expression before…
‘We do need Raheem’ …?
Is there anyone that Banks could put forward for the leadership post to keep the seat warm for Farage taking a sabbatical that you wouldn’t automatically start shouting for, no matter how ridiculous the stooge?
I sometimes wonder what Farage makes of his moonies that slavishly worship him like this, it must be a mildly unnerving feeling being at the centre of a personality cult =/
Ajax we will just have to agree that we have very different ideas of what and where UKIP should be, and most importantly, who it should be for.
It’s immaterial now, but it was in fact the burka.
Roger. Our EGM attempt was frustrated by head office who, at the last minute, would come up reasons why it couldn’t be held as arranged. Has to be a public venue was one. I forget the others but every county branch has tried, and failed so far, to meet every criteria they come up with to stop them.
Issue hasn’t gone away though. Neither has the manipulations of head office. All awaiting a new leader….
Alan thanks for the reply on EGM, you say “awaiting a new leader” – is there any chance that, I assume it will be Paul Nuttall, have any chance of having any effect at all i.e in the words of AB “will he have the guts to clear the lot of `em out”?
PS still nobody has given me an answer about influence of YBF which I believe is some sort of “grey eminence”
Nuttall would be advised to be wary of Ms. Evans, she’s not a radical in the least other than in personal ambition, & should not be in the vicinity of UKIP’s leadership post.
This ex-Para Rees-Evans reminds me of the late great James Goldsmith, quite impressive but of questionable psychological stability. To think he can join a party 5 minutes ago, with no prior political experience, & then toss his hat in the ring for its leadership against others who have been in it for years of work and proving themselves in junior positions, is eye-brow raisingly hubristic.
You say Nuttall should be wary of Evans. However. his proposal to ‘unify’ the party means he will almost certainly appease the likes of Evans, Carswell and Hamilton. He should be saying he’d boot them out.
As for Rees-Evans, he stood as a candidate in the 2015 General Election for Cardiff South and Penarth, finishing a very creditable 3rd and increasing the UKIP vote by 11.2%. Rather longer than ‘5 minutes’ I’d say.
On what pretext would you boot Evans, Carswell & Hamilton out of UKIP exactly?
Their complete disloyalty to the party leader.
Hamilton plotting with, yes, Nuttall to remove Nigel Farage from the leadership while Nigel was busily obtaining Brexit for us.
Evans and Carswell for joining Vote Leave instead of the UKIP supporting Leave.EU/Grassroots Out campaign and criticizing Nigel at every opportunity during the campaign.
Do we really want these people, sniping all the time at virtually everything UKIP stands for?
Ladbrokes estimated around 18% support for her which is already 100% higher than it should be. Looking at her twitter account there are people supporting her – Byron Sandford of these pages for example. Waiting for his explanatory comment. Evans is weak and changes direction with changes in the wind. That’s not a leader.
I feel even worse. While having donated and signed up to Leave.eu I have been ignored since last week!
However, having to date received nothing, I would fall in the anti-unity category – unity in this special UKIP case will be fatal (I deleted my real thoughts, and have, I hope, been tactful).
Ladbrokes have Nuttall on about 80% of the vote. Not much chance of anyone denting St Paul’s halo. But the level of support for Evans, about 18% according to Ladbrokes, is shockingly high. I forgot to mention that in her summing up Evans said “I feel so energised by it”. She really was on a high. She knows she won’t beat St Nuttall so it is the realisation that she will have a prominent role now that is “energising her”. There were no sick buckets at the hustings but needed to be.
Could someone please link me to the YouTube video of the hustongs? For some reason I can’t find it.
I did see the LBC debate though. What a miserable, horrible mess! Iain Dale was hostile and constantly interrupted wwith his own views, and all the callers were hostile too. I thought Peter Whittle came across very well though.
I want Paul Nuttall for leader and he’s not going to be short of votes. I’d much rather have Whittle than Evans as deputy so I might well vote for Whittle.
It’s not up yet but coming soon I believe. For anyone who missed LBC’s hustings beforehand it is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_XciGKuFJQ
Paul Oakden has just confirmed that the hustings in two weeks time will be live streamed.
I heard yesterday that the plannd live streaming was cancelled as two major broadcasters were going to televise a hustings, and links to those wojld be made available?
Paul Oakden says in his email today: “Remember, If you’re not able to make it to one of the hustings then don’t panic – we will be circulating a link for members to watch a hustings online, that will be taking place in two weeks.” Presumably that is the one in Worcester.