The leadership contest is in its last throws, “thank goodness”, I can hear you all say. Yes, it has been a lengthy process, some would say ridiculously too long.
Most commentators have this as a two horse race between Anne-Marie Waters and John Rees-Evans. I declare now that as the campaign manager for Ben Walker, and now Ukip United, I have of course a vested interest in the process and the outcome.
I have some questions:
Anne-Marie,
- Given your potential success, how are we to address as a party, the internal troubles with the NEC and apathy within the branches throughout the country? What, if anything, are your plans to re- engage these members? You have regularly not dodged, but not fully answered, these questions.
- What, if any part, will Jack Buckley your campaign manager/launch facilitator play in the Party? He is/or was a member of a proscribed group (BNP), his tweets and posts leave me and most of my fellow members cold. He is a vile young man in many people’s opinion.
- Same question regarding Mr. Tommy Robinson.
- If we are to follow and adopt the adage that “Islam is evil” or “Islam is not compatible with our culture”, what policies will be drafted from those mantras? Can you as leader come with me onto the streets of Bradford and sell them in our wards next May for the town council elections?
- Who will be your chairman? One expects Mr. Agnew would be your deputy. Will you allow members of proscribed groups to now join the party en masse?
- What changes will be made to the infrastructure? Will you keep the regions as they are, RO`s etc.?
- Finally, what will you do if, on day one of your leadership we have, as expected mass resignations, (the entire Bradford Branch have stated they will resign and form an independent group, as has Richmond in Yorkshire and others)? What will you do to keep the party solvent and how will you protect those members of the NEC that are by definition Directors of the company that is Ukip? If bankruptcy looms, they will hold some financial accountability.
John,
- Where will the server and IT suite be housed, stored and maintained to hold all the information from the four programmes you are asking us to vote for? It will be vast.
- How many staff will be needed to maintain, full time, seven days a week these programmes? The information submitted to them, especially in the early days will be simply enormous in volume.
- Who will own DD? Will it be licensed to Ukip? If so, for how long and at what cost? You have said that you would hand it over entirely to someone who is willing to fully adopt your idea, so if you`re voted leader, would that be a large enough endorsement or will you hold ownership over the party’s head.
- As a guide, a friend of mine who designs and implements IT systems for medium to large companies looked at this (he is nothing to do with Ukip). He estimated start- up costs in excess of £250,000 and onward going costs of maintenance, staffing, offices and ongoing development of £350,000 per annum. He also did not understand how this would work, but that is another topic.
- Why would you not publish the feasibility studies? Why would you not make clear what happened between yourself and the NEC at the original conception, with regards to who paid the initial bill for the system to be developed and how much that bill was?
- Again, on day one how would you keep the party solvent should our creditors pull the plug? How will you deal with the potential problems stemming from their action and assist the NEC with their responsibilities?
- On day one and thereafter, we will have many disenfranchised members not attending meetings. How quickly will they be able to access your programmes, and how quickly will the new manifesto that we need for next May be developed?
- How quickly do you think we will become the government? How quickly will we take back power from the elite and transfer it back to the people?
- Please expand on your idea that people will vote on issues using lottery machines in Tesco’s etc.
- How will I, and my members, sell those ideas on the doorstep in Bradford.
Some readers may take the view I am being facetious, let me assure you am I not. I am being pragmatic. I am a realist, a down to earth ex-copper from Bradford who knows just what is happening in that, and many other cities. I also know, having stood for Parliament in June, just what we are up against with regards, particularly to Labour and Hope not Hate, and Momentum, but also the Tories. A dose of realism here is needed.
Plainly speaking, as recent council bi- elections have proven, and with the defections almost daily of councillors, we cannot even get a parish councillor elected right now.
We have not got a hope in hell next May unless we fix the party and its woes; and at the same time have some serious support, finances, training, and mentoring and some serious vision and direction.
Neither of these candidates have ever addressed the real down to earth nitty gritty of this party and its problems. John has produced a glossy timetable for the next May elections: it is pie in the sky as it does not reflect individual branch problems. It is an overarching, umbrella programme that relies on everyone towing the line. Those branch chairs reading this know first-hand this is impossible; and without funds to hire rooms, produce materials, and for the candidates to find the time for the many meetings it requires, it is about as much use as a chocolate tea cup.
Hard graft case working, getting involved in local issues, driving the agenda, and raising individuals profiles are the only way forward, and we need to start this now. In fact, we needed to start this in June for any chance of real success next Election.
Let`s get real, the single issue of Islam kills us dead by November. Whilst awaiting computer programmes to do their stuff, and awaiting the funds to pay people, as stated we will be lost by Xmas on that route.
This party needs hands on fire fighting, hands on bottom up fixing and engagement on all issues, we simply need to get together to talk, in policy forums and at regional meetings. Communications within the party need fixing.
Talking, discussing, coaching, and training are doable within a very short period of time. We could have a new manifesto up and running in a matter of weeks, a rolling one, always available. All this is at little cost too. A new website that all can access is in place; it simply needs a day`s work to update it and make it look less amateur. Within the package we have through nation builder, we have a further ten websites we have never utilised!
A team to put this right is in place, ready to land running. Ukip United under the leadership of Jane Collins, implemented and managed by Ben Walker, supported by current financiers and with a new full-time fund raiser who has a fabulous proven background in this area.
Do the right thing on your voting form….
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36 Comments on “The Leadership Contest”
Bradford is already a lost cause as are many other former wool and cotton towns unless drastic action is taken, so hardly relevant to the rest of the country.
“Most commentators have this as a two horse race between Anne-Marie Waters and John Rees-Evans.” Really? I’d be very surprised if either won. For sure, they are very prominent online, but so was Raheem Kassam.
The bookmakers have it as a contest between Peter Whittle and Anne Marie Waters. They are usually more accurate than the polls.
My final post yesterday didn’t make it past the moderator but it was really only to repeat something I had said earlier together with an observation, perhaps, that was a little uncomfortably close to the truth.
So it delighted me this morning me to note on Twitter that AMW speaking at the West Midlands Hustings observed, as I did here, that only now are fellow candidates having the conversation, or as Jason calls them, Johnny come latelies re the Islam issue. An important step forward, not in making it the agenda but in having it on the agenda at all.
A few questions for you Stephen:
1. Have you read JRE’s 38-page manifesto?
https://www.scribd.com/document/357997176/A-Manifesto-to-Make-UKIP-a-Party-Fit-to-Be-The-Government#fullscreen&from_embed
2. Have you read JRE’s 22-page document on the Islamification of Britain?
https://www.scribd.com/document/358610429/Tackling-the-Islamification-of-Britain#
3. Can you point me towards policy documents of similar detail that have been produced by UKIP United?
4. Are you suggesting that JRE, with all his internet involved, international business success, has not put the same attention to detail into his plans for Direct Democracy?
5. Did you hear Henry Bolton say at the London hustings that, if elected, he would ask JRE, David Kurten and Aiden Powlesland to join his team?
Thanks, Steve. The technical and financial sub-committees of the NEC asked pretty much similar questions – and more, which I won’t detail here – of JRE, but answer came there none ?
When did that happen Rob?
Was it before or after the conversation below?
‘In spite of John having designed and overseen the implementation of the system without cost to the party, and John’s then being willing to sign over the intellectual property rights for the programme to the party, John was subsequently informed by the party treasurer that, in effect, the former leader had been functioning ultra vires in placing this request with John, and that the project did not actually have the backing of the NEC and could therefore not be funded.’
Wow. So it is clear, if the leader does anything the NEC doesn’t like it will simply declare those actions ultra vires and refuse to stand behind any committments made by that leader. Feel sorry for PN and also JRE for wasting their time and effort on this.
Graham,
I agree, JRE must have put a lot of effort and cash into this, but I still do not fully understand it myself.
After. Once the relevant committees found out, we reviewd the system and raised questions. We expected a prompt respinse to clarify matters. John Bickley was correct: Paul Nuttall had to have this approved by the NEC, and our questions and concerns were entirely reasonable.
Nice that you got your ballot paper. I’ve only been a member since July. Too soon? Maybe I’ll vote for the “wrong” candidate?
Chris, what an excellent summary (under the same file category). I don’t understand why so many people don’t get it – I fear enough won’t, but I very much hope they do.
I also think we would find that reality is tremendously electable!
AMW should get endorsement from Tommy, Paul Weston, Pat Condell, Kathy Hopkins and Douglas Murray.
2-3 minute youtubes would be ideal.
anyone who can facilitate, please do.
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Sorry all,
Stout yoeman has just chucked a bomb under AMW’s campaign.against FGM. It seriously looks like an establishment trap by the civil service, aided and abetted by the PM. We need answers quick.
Good points Panmelia. I agree and, based on real observation of treatment of a Muslim girl and failure of social services in a small sample of the Muslim population, simply do not believe those statistics.
To try to answer two of your queries, assuming that by TR you are referring to Tommy Robinson.
Firstly, as a one time member of BNP and also founder member of EDL, he is not eligible for membership of UKIP.
Secondly, you mention ‘bringing him back into UKIP’. To my knowledge, he has never been a UKIP member (for the reason given above) and, therefore, cannot be ‘brought back’.
I cannot comment in respect of Raheem Kassam as I do not know his current status.
Brenda, after reading Tommy Robinson’s book ‘Enemy Of The State’, I now understand why UKIPs membership policy regarding former BNP and EDL members is strange.
TR joined the BNP (very briefly) out of frustration, and formed the EDL not wanting it to be a ‘racist’ organisation, and tried to stop far right BNP and National Front activists from being involved. But of course, the MSM don’t like to inform people of sch things, so the EDL was branded as ‘far-right’ and ‘extremist’, and TR was of course hounded and persecuted by the police, just for speaking his mind.
I was aware of this. I was simply stating why he is not eligible to join UKIP.
Couldn’t agree more.
Another couldn’t agree more. I also voted wholeheartedly for Anne Marie and look forward with relish to the much needed shakedown of the party, and then the resurgence, that I’m sure she’ll bring.
Just for interest’s sake, I checked current Bet365 odds.
To a common denominator (for ease of comparison), a bet of 10 units would return:
13 Whittle
18 Waters
60 Collins
90 Bolton
120 Kurten
120 Rees-Evans
One might infer different odds from the constituency of UKIPD contributors, but in the wider world Peter Whittle is probably still the most (to some, the only) recognisable name.