Westmonster reports:
Nigel Farage has said that his mind is possibly changing on another Brexit referendum. Whilst he said that he didn’t want a second referendum, he was also clear that his thoughts on such a vote to “kill off” the issue are now changing.
Farage told Channel 5’s Wright Stuff: “I have to say my mind is actually changing on this. I…what is for certain is that the Cleggs, the Blairs, the Adonises, will never ever, ever, ever give up. They will go whinging, whining, and moaning all the way through this process.
“So maybe, just maybe, I’m reaching the point of thinking, that we should have a second referendum on…EU membership.”
He went on: “I think if we had a second referendum on EU membership we’d kill it off for a generation. The percentage that would vote to Leave next time would be very much bigger than it was last time round and we may just finish the whole thing off and Blair can disappear off into total obscurity.”
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In the interests of accuracy:
Nigel did not ‘call for a 2nd referendum’. He does not want a 2nd referendum. He wants an effective response to fight the Government’s betrayal of the Brexit vote.
Being the ‘very canny politician’ that Arron Banks described him as yesterday, Nigel has issued a much-needed call to arms to the apparently complacent and currently inactive Brexit movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmMoI7AhiO8
I think people would be wise to listen to what he’s actually saying, and to consider the reasoning behind it.
Correct.
But he did make a mistake, by formulating it in such a way that permitted scoundrels – no shortage of these – to pick an unbroken part of what he stated and use it against us.
It’s quite hard to avoid this happening, but Nigel usually manages it (so do others, myself included, usually).
This time he didn’t and they pounced.
If the House of Lords and Parliament want a final vote on the Independence deal, surely the choice is between acceptance or leave the EU with No Deal. We voted to leave, so remaining does not come into the choice.
You cannot have a 2nd Referendum without a 3rd one. Best of 3!
Here you are: https://youtu.be/4XJ_jDsGB_w?t=76
The House of Lords and Parliament wants a say on the final deal.
Remainers want a further referendum on the final deal.
The EU and the Conservatives are negotiating a rubbish, expensive and anti-Brexit style final deal, probably so it will be rejected by Westminster and by any future referendum.
The foreign fishing vessels floating around UK waters zapping sea life with high voltage electricity is a symptom of how the UK itself has being trampled over by foreign powers in collaboration with two or possibly three generations of sell-out asset stripping Westminster politicians.
Just noticed tonight the BBC is back paying heavy duty to the “project fear” and “despite Brexit” agendas.
Thanks Nigel.
1) Will lose job/money/expenses as an MEP in 2019.
2) Fail to get knighthood/honour unlike hero Cleggy.
3) Have meeting behind closed doors with Barnier.
4) Support second referendum.
WAIT FOR FUTURE EU JOB OFFER TO SUDDENLY APPEAR.
Totally agree. If only we could see the smoking gun. Perhaps someone with a bit of backbone will snitch!!!!
Funny but false.
What in FECK is Farage playing at? This is INSANE. I did not tramp the streets in June 2016 to be betrayed by my own fecking side. Is Farage still in UKIP? If he is, he should now retract or reconsider.
Didn`t he have a meeting on Monday with Barnier?
Has he reported back to anybody?
Is it a put – up job?
To flush out what?
There’s nothing wrong with keeping up the pressure, and our profile with the electorate. This morning I was delivering ‘out now’ leaflets, no elections on the horizon in my constituency, not even council one’s, but a need to keep us alive in the public’s mind and remind people that we are a gnats whisker from being betrayed. However, rain stopped play, it’s damned difficult to get the pesky things through the letter box when damp.
This hasn’t been a good start to 2018.
First, Henry … less said soonest mended.
And now, Nigel … calling for a second referendum?!?
I’m sorry, I just don’t get it at all. I’ve tried and tried and tried … is it a masterstroke, is it folly … and I conclude that it’s folly.
‘Bad luck’ comes in threes, they say. What’s next? The Govt announces a second referendum?
Flabergasted.
But there was one piece of good news and I’m not afraid to call it that! The death of Peter Sutherland, a rodent who wished and worked for destruction of our country and us.
Heather
No;indifferent;probably not (but he seems to like the thought of continuing as a ‘personality’ on to a good wicket.
Quite a number of ex members use this site. I became an ex member a few days ago.
There’s no telling what his reasoning is but as for expecting people to put their shoulders to the wheel again, that would depend on each individual. Many of the remaining members are tired and disillusioned, with little energy left for another fight.
Regards
He is right in one respect we were completely unprepared
in the passed two WW, and we are certainly NOT prepared for this one, you cannot make him wrong on that.
I commend John Carins’ comment below.
Some of the comments here accuse Nigel of not thinking before he speaks.
They appear to demonstrate very short memories in respect of the political skills of arguably the’most effective politician of his generation’.
Dare I suggest that some of the comments here might indicate a knee-jerk lack of thought before posting?
Now where’s my tin hat…
He’ll be explaining himself on LBC from 7pm
http://www.lbc.co.uk/
‘The most effective politician of his generation’ might have won us a few domestic seats, Howard. He didn’t because of his stubborn refusal to appeal to the working class on the economy and domestic agenda – a massive strategic misappreciation.
Much more of this sort of talk and we will have people leaving UKIP for BRITAIN FIRST and the like.
Dangerous talk Nigel, we voted out, If a second try is chosen we shall have to agitate with civil disobedience etc
Why anybody would take the slightest bit of notice of Nigel Farage anymore and, even worse, would want him back as UKIP leader is beyond my comprehension.
He abandoned ship at the worst possible moment. He is yesterday’s man living on past glories.
I agree Peter. I can’t understand the Kippers on here that want Nigel back. His input has run its course and in all honesty he can’t be trusted because in his mind he thinks he’s owed something. His endorsement of slimy Henry should be enough to let anyone know he’s not right for UKIP.
Yes Sean, you’re right, Farage’s input has run its course and as for Bolton, well, he never had a course to run in the first place. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but I don’t like the look of this at all.
The New Grand old Duke of York.
He marched them up to the top of the hill and he marched them down again……..and when they were up they were up…and when they were down they were down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5LgybHRDeI
http://junonews.org/archives/20231
“We voted out and that’s that. …”
If Nigel thinks we have the cash, activists and energy to fight another referendum, he’s nuts. Just imagine how much the Remainers would throw at it, we could never match them. A very stupid thing to say.
Next LBC appearance is just starting now according to his twitter account.
And people wonder why the NEC found Nigel difficult to deal with (or vice versa)… ?
Note NF has issued his headline grabbing rubbish on the day of Question Time with Gina Miller on the panel. Maximum stirring by the new MSM luvvie, Nigel.
Nigel has thrown in a hand grenade and true to form both sides of the argument have fulminated. Nigel has done this to get the stupidity of a 2nd referendum aired. It helps Brexiteers restate their position and lo and behold it gets Cabinet Ministers out insisting that their will not be a 2nd referendum. It’s a good days work by Nigel. Has Henry said anything yet?
Henry’s too busy with other matters…
Just under the photo of Clegg’s tweet in the following article Bolton has made a brief comment to the DM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5257959/Nigel-Farage-calls-Brexit-referendum.html#comments-5257959
A very welcome more thoughtful response John. Well said.
Hi, Dee. Yes, I am past angry and heading for despair. If the Great Brexiteer is giving comfort to the repulsive Remoaners, where shall we turn? Jacob Rees-Mogg is still free to lead a fight back and I hope he seizes the opportunity.
I have no further interest in Nigel’s pronouncements. Was he hypnotised by Michael Barmier the other day into a volte face? There is no other excuse for this classic EU-style, Blair-approved ‘A second referendum is needed’ malarkey, something Nigel railed against more times than I can remember in the long, long Brexit campaign.
Seems to me that Jacob Rees Mogg is our only hope at the moment if he cares to run with it. He’d need to launch a Tory leadership challenge though.
Kind regards.
John, I agree with you. The project fear campaign cannot be seriously repeated. The Leavers could have a field day about how life quality has deteriorated since the Lisbon Treaty came into effect. Remain seem unable to show how the quality of British life will improve by remaining in the EU. How will Barnier, as the next possible EU president, improve life for the British. Leave means Leave.
It is not necessarily a bad idea to allow thoroughly rebarbative individuals the oxygen of publicity. Nobody wants a second referendum nor will it shut up those who despise the opinions of ordinary people; it will simply give them a further opportunity in conjunction with the Brussels regime to promote Project Fear and next time they may have far more money to spend: banksters have deep pockets.
Think again, Nigel; I mean think before you speak!
The Cleggs, Adonises and Blairs would be in 7th heaven if a 2nd Referendum were called. Another opportunity to lie, scaremonger, press panic buttons and Remoan till their heart’s content. People are already sick of the see-sawing that has gone on for 18 weary months. We cannot begin again!
What is wrong with UKIP that it cannot elect a sound leader in three consecutive elections? As if that were not bad enough, Nigel is further undermining his own credibility and the whole Brexit cause.
Hi Panmelia – I missed your comments, so: welcome back! Give it your customary blasts with both barrels, no holding back!
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When what Nigel says pleases Chuckup O’Mooner, who can remain silent?
Love it, Panmelia!
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Hi Pam,
Welcome back,I agree with Viv, we`ve missed you.
Could it be that you`ve scented at last, we have a chance of doing something right?.
Hi Roger, no, I’m sorry, I have no such hope for Ukip, even less now that Nigel has said the one thing no one serious about getting our country back should say. It’s a head-in-hands situation.
There is no guarantee that it would be the same question. Chances are it wouldn’t be. He is potentially opening a can of worms. Fool.
And there’s every guarantee that they’ll pull every trick in the book to win, they who lost last time. Flat no.
Thanks to Nigel for getting us the referendum but that is all. His actions since have been destructive to our cause.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ?
What’s Nigel’s problem? Not enough listeners to his LBC show? Not enough daily publicity and/or money in the bank? Nigel is slowly turning into an MSM player and a publicity seeking pratt.
As far as I can see its now
War criminal Blair 1, Farage 0
By an own goal in the second half.
Doesn’t the man realize this is giving comfort to the enemy. This won’t go away soon. And he can’t get it back.
I really, really don’t see why the public should be dragged through another vote. We voted OUT. End of. Having another would play right into the enemy’s hands because it implies (as Blair said) “people are changing their minds”. Well, they’re damn well NOT and it makes me weep to think that the miles of street-pounding last year would all be for nowt. Why not vote again on the 2017 GE as well, while we’re at it? and 2015? and 2010? Whose side is he on?
Lost for words – flabbergasted
It’s just attention seeking on Farage’s behalf. With his attack on AMW, his statement regarding Bolton’s profile the other day and now this, Nigel is turning into a bit of a prat in my opinion.
Idiot