Enoch Powell, who may have been a very clever man but was a lousy politician, made it impossible to talk about immigration for more than a generation. With his so-called ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech he gave those who hate their country an excuse to attack anyone who tries to address the problem. Ms Waters is making the exact same error. I wrote the following open letter to Stuart Agnew as soon as I heard that he too was giving our enemies an obvious target:
“Dear Stuart,
To say I was surprised by your suggestions for leadership candidates in the latest Eastern MEP update would be an understatement. I can think of no-one less suitable to lead our recovery from the current situation than Anne Marie Waters. […]
The mainstream Press will claim that Miss Waters epitomises everything we in Suffolk have been fighting against: that may be unfair but they are looking for something, anything, to use against us. All our hard work will be wasted […]
We have not achieved that result by banging on against Islamisation – we have pushed the message that if we close the borders and stop mass immigration then things will settle down. The vast majority of people in Suffolk do not distinguish between too many Romanians, too many Poles or too many people from Pakistan or Bangladesh. They want fewer immigrants full stop.
Associating with the EDL and talking about Islamisation will make any supporters we have left after the last leadership débâcle head back to whence they came, and you seem to be advocating just that. You may plead that she has been traduced and is bravely speaking the truth. Surely by now you have realised that appearance is all in politics, and what matters is how a story can be spun. I could write the headlines myself. ‘UKIP veers Right. EDL Takes Control. – UKIP Candidate Supports Extremism.’
Would those headlines be fair? Maybe not, although I have my own opinion on that, but we are not talking fairness or truth, we are talking politics. To suggest that Miss Waters could do anything but destroy our credibility is naive at best.
How did the proposed burqa ban go down? Badly, losing us many more votes than it gained because the media pointed and shouted ‘racist!’. How did we do in constituencies with large immigrant populations, in places where hundreds of young girls were abused by clearly identifiable perpetrators? Badly, because the media twisted the tale to be about racism, not about justice for cruelly exploited children. How will we do nationally if we cosy up to the EDL and the Press jumps gleefully onto this most obvious of own goals? Disastrously.
You say your chief motivation is to resist Islamisation. A Waters leadership, even her being accepted as a candidate, could make that impossible in the same way that Powell made it impossible. We would give people an excuse to avoid thinking about the inevitable end of the path we are on, let them dismiss reality as prejudice and racism.
There is still time to halt the tide, but your suggestion would be tantamount to dynamiting the lock gates during a tempest. Just suggesting that she is acceptable is immensely damaging. If I had my way she would not even be a member.
Advocating tight border controls and the reintroduction of the primary purpose law would achieve your aim but would present a much smaller target. If Miss Waters remains a member I will protest. If she is accepted as a candidate I will campaign and vote against. If by any mischance she became UKIP leader I would resign.
Rgds, Julian Flood”
There is a vocal minority of members who think that concentrating on Islamification will attract votes. They are wrong. I speak here from considerable experience: I joined UKIP in 2013 and in three months I was a county councillor and served the people of Haverhill for four years. I have campaigned in five by-elections, stood for county twice, fought for borough once, for Westminster twice. I have leafleted what feels like half of the UK and doorstepped the other half.
Pushing this agenda will lose votes not attract them. If nothing I have said here has changed their minds then those who wish to make this their priority should let go of UKIP and form their own party. I do not wish them luck, and when they are wiped out at the ballot box I will say ‘I told you so.’
As a minority on Suffolk County council we found that we could only make a difference by playing politics by the rules, and the first rule is ‘don’t make yourself a target for a hostile Press’. Too many of our candidates for the leadership seem to have forgotten or, through lack of experience, are ignoring that rule.
Let me end on a positive note.
I was standing outside a polling station in Oldham West and Royton looking very obviously UKIP – I had a purple rosette, a purple clipboard and a purple face from the cold. A young Asian woman with a toddler stood and looked at the big sign, and then with a determined expression marched up to me and asked how she could vote. I explained and she went off to find her voting card. Half an hour later she was back. When she emerged she nodded thank you as she passed me and said quietly ‘the first time I have ever voted’. The triumph in her voice was wonderful, a message of hope. “Damn the imam” it said, “damn the elders, damn my father, damn my husband, damn my brothers, damn my mother and damn Granny. Damn everyone. Today I voted as a free woman.”
There is the prize: integration.
Close the borders, restore the primary purpose rule, restrict the chaos that is postal voting and things will settle down. By putting vanity before duty, by being delusional about their chances, by being simplistic about the problems we face, the majority of those who are standing in this election are risking that prize by splitting the vote. I beg them to put their country first. I beg them to put duty before self, ensuring a straight contest between the politically inept and those of us who know how hard is the battle ahead. Get this right and UKIP can survive.
Enoch was wrong, or at least he is not right yet. Let’s make sure that he stays wrong.
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57 Comments on “Enoch was wrong”
You still don’t get it do you.
If people by and large formed their perceptions from MSM, then Remain would have won the 2016 Referendum.
Were your grandparents Muslim? If not, it’s no surprise you are now part of the British society.
Muslims aren’t ALLOWED to assimilate – it’s against their religious teachings. The best than we can hope for is that Birmingham, Luton, Bradford and the rest effectively form separate countries peacefully within our own, with no armed checkpoints on the main roads.
Do you consider that Hindus are allowed to assimilate but Muslims can’t? What do you consider to be the difference? Could it be the Islamic teachings on how to relate to Christians, Jews and, worse, people not “of the book”?
How perfectly put, Philip, you speak for me, thanks.
Dear all
Can I just say I feel so glad to be a part of a membership that truly understands the depths of the problems facing us in the U.K. It encourages me to feel a small amount of hope, and well as a great deal of resolution. Without UKIP Daily that wouldn’t be possible. Thank you to all those who enable this site to be here – without our wonderful Editors dedications it wouldn’t be. We owe you a great deal.
Dee, agree 100%. And thankyou too for all your contributions and encouragement. It may feel like a lonely task at times, however we are not alone.
Yes Dee. For me UKIP daily is the most interesting and valuable site on the web – and my favourite. AMW said UKIPs website needs major improvements. I would expect JRE shares that view. And maybe the others. I think whoever wins will look into a major overhaul of UKIPs website – there are just so many ways it could be improved.
Dee, I second that.
Powell was a fine politician and his speech has been misinterpreted. He was a classical scholar and by talking of Rivers of Blood he was talking about Romans and the Tigris
Sorry Tiber not Tigris
This atrocity happened in Barcelona the very city that has been demonstrating against tourism. I guess a drunken tourist doesn’t look so bad now.
@kjo
Heh, you’re right.
A week ago yesterday, my son and his partner were standing on the very spot the Barcelona atrocity took place. Before they went, I warned them about the anti-tourism Spaniards who earlier stopped a coach and wrote some graffiti on the side. Maybe they will have a re-think about whom to protest against in future – the real enemies of Spain and the whole of Europe.
Was Sarah Champion wrong too about the grooming gangs?
She has been criticised by Corbyn:
https://labourlist.org/2017/08/corbyn-dont-blame-entire-ethnic-community-for-child-sex-crimes/
In a way she is wrong to blame Pakistani men. Men of other origins were also involved. More correctly she should have said “Muslim men”. Imagine the furious response if she had said that though.
Labour has to keep its Muslim voters on side. The truth is the first casualty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5KpyMR5q3o
The colonisation of Cambridge “University”.
‘It is only a matter of time before even the most stupid and cowardly of our white fellow citizens realize that they are at war … the uniforms in that war will be the colour of your skin.’
– Martin Webster, quoted on page 192 of “The National Front” (1977) by Martin Walker.
*(In fact, The English Democrats. But will anyone notice?)
hi Julian
I like you a lot better when you don’t give me good reason too. (I’m surprised you have.) Perhaps you’ve missed the point somewhere along a difficult road.
Do not be so fearful of the BBC etc.
Remember the referendum – all the scaremongering failed.
Similarly all the accusations of Islamophobia will fail. Believe in the cause, because it is a just cause. Do not allow the messengers of the enemy to dismay you or cause you to falter.
Let Labour have the Muslim vote. Chasing after it in Stoke was pointless. If you wish to compromise with Islam you might as well join the Lib Dems.
The “flood” of comments has arrived! ?
“justice for cruelly exploited children”… that would be http://www.Jane4Leader.info, then?
Incidentally, isn’t it odd that we’re discussing the Barcelona declaration today of all days? ?
Rob, could you prompt Jane to answer the questionnaire please?
Will be chatting to her later, hopefully.
Viv will be publishing Jane’s general response on questionnaIres of this type hopefully on Sunday.
Close the borders! For the media that puts you in the same corner as Ms.Waters etc. We need thinking voters and not media acclamation, leave that to the more established parties.
Meanwhile, in the latest terror attack in Barcelona today: at least thirteen dead and counting.
“Rivers of Blood”
I’d say Enoch was spot on.
Most cultures and religions are quite happy to integrate into UK culture and over time assimilate into our society, however Islam which is political cult will never integrate. Indeed they’re told not to associate themselves with the Kufar. What we are seeing now is the extreme form called Wahhabism, supported, financed and taught in many UK mosques by Saudi Arabia.
It is this kind of extremist Islam that AMW is against, not Islam as a whole.
I have lived and worked in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait. Whilst there I found the Arabs friendly and hard working people. When they leave their own countries they seem to change completely and not for the better
Take a look at this Julien then tell people again they must be quiet!!
https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/898211536107393028
Here’s another one for you:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/17/no-go-zones-no-whites-allowed-after-8-pm-graffiti-appears-in-birmingham-england/
Dear Juluan
Whilst you letter was well meaning and probably true for wealthy leafy Suffolk, it is a naive point of view.
Voting for AM Waters is our chance to fight back, if we don’t try then multiculturalism is even going to be visiting you in your tree lined avenue. Then I’ll say “I told you so”
Apologies for the lack of editing, but the text kept hopping about so I couldn’t pin it down, and in the end I just posted it !
The Barcelona Agreement should clearly be torn up asap, signing it was an act of treason in my view.
Hi Dee. Thanks for your info. I was not aware. I have found the article on wikipedia. Lots of further links to follow on there. The government just cannot be trusted to represent the people. When was consent for all this obtained from the voters?
If you are suggesting that the Muslims in this video will eventually adapt to our way of life, then I’m afraid that’s delusional:
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/what-the-muslims-plan-to-do-if-the-uk-doesnt-wake-up/?utm_source=bina&utm_medium=cpm
And people like Anne Marie Waters, who talk about it, ARE putting their country first.
Conversely, if you do not have children, why would you care if Islam takes over some decades hence? You could just continue sipping your gin and tonic while the sun sets on civilisation.
Which was exactly Enoch’s point some years after his RoB speech. His contemporaries would agree with him privately but they preferred to kick the can down the road and leave to those who followed them.
Unfortunately for our children and grandchildren, the can has been buried in an avalanche of deceit from those recruited to the project, Alan. Barcelona – how tragic and how ironic.