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About that EGM …

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In five days we members will cast our votes at the EGM. If you haven’t done so – there is still time to register. Complacency and thinking that other members will do ‘the right thing’ may mean that the vote endorsing the NEC could be lost by default.

We’ve heard rumours from across the country that supporters of Bolton have organised coaches to have as many of his supporters at the EGM as possible. The ancient Romans used to say: “quod licet Jovi non licet bovi”, meaning ‘what is permitted to Jupiter ain’t permitted to the cattle’. Since we’re not cattle (even if  certain former and current leaders would like to have it thus) and since Mr Bolton is not Jupiter, let’s say that, if ‘Jupiter’ thinks he can do so – so can we. But – how?

Well – most importantly: you have to register! The lovely ladies at Lexdrum House tell me that they would be more than happy to register you if you call them at 0333-800-6800. If you’re not registered you won’t be allowed in – and don’t forget to bring your membership card with you. You must have been a ‘paid-up’ member on Jan 20th to register, but if you’re still in the three-months grace period in which to renew your lapsed membership, you must have done so before midday on Friday Feb 16th, and it must have been processed by Head Office by that deadline. So – get your skates on!

A member made the following suggestions about how to organise the attendance of us,  the grassroots, in a phone call to me:

“Ask your branch members personally (your Branch secretary will have their names etc) if they are 100% attending EGM and if not – would they like to do so? Unless your branch chair has already organised the trip to Birmingham, perhaps you might find out if a car pool could be organised so that members who would like to go but have difficulties with transport can do so. It’s obviously important to message people on social media, email, phone and even visit people to get their opinions and not miss anyone out that you know of – even if they are blatantly obvious!  And obviously find out if they are willing/able to give lifts to other members to the EGM.”

So: get registered, get your members to register by calling Lexdrum House, get organised with your colleagues to go Birmingham – and don’t forget to bring your membership card!

Once we’re there, this is how things will unfold, as Adam Richardson, Party Secretary, described it in his snail-mail letter (dated January 30th) to members:

“The Party Chairman is required to chair the EGM. The EGM shall have as its only business a motion to endorse or reject the vote of no confidence by the NEC. Once the EGM has started, a representative of the NEC will outline the decision they have made. Henry Bolton will then put his case as to why he should remain as leader. Other speakers may be invited to speak but both sides of the debate shall have equal speaking time. The Party Chairman will call for a vote and those present will vote on whether to endorse or reject the VONC in the leader.”

In his recent messages to members Paul Oakden (still only Interim Chair, not ‘Interim Leader’!) informed us that, due to the expected number of members registered to attend a simple show of hands for and against would not be feasible. Thus ballot papers will be issued. The ballots will be counted in public, for all to see, on the conference platform.

I would suggest that the ballot boxes ought to be shown to be empty before they are locked and members put their ballot papers inside – unless, of course, they are transparent ballot boxes as used in many official elections on the continent, but then I’m a bit suspicious …

Further to the EGM Paul Oakden sent out another message last evening, the important part is quoted below – just in case you havn’t received it:

“They [the members] will register their decision by way of a ballot that will take place immediately after hearing arguments from both Henry and a representative of the NEC. To ensure the smooth running of the meeting there will be no interventions permitted from the floor during the meeting. However, I am keen that our grassroots membership have their opportunity to participate in the debate, to give their view on the current situation. 

With that in mind, I am inviting members of the party to submit in advance a request to speak either for or against the motion. As part of the format, I have included six, two minute speeches (three from those who support the motion and three from those who oppose it).

If you are interested in giving one of these two minute speeches, you will need to follow this link and complete the simple form to register your interest: https://www.myukip.com/egm-2018—speakers.html

Applications will be accepted until 12noon on Thursday 15th February 2018. Please make sure that when applying, you supply an email address that you will have access to on the Thursday afternoon. At that point, you will be written to with further information on how speakers will be selected on the day.”

I do hope you take this opportunity to make your voice heard! It is of course a lottery as to which speeches will be selected, but: nothing ventured – nothing gained.

And finally: what happens after the votes have been counted?

Should the majority vote to oppose the NEC then Bolton remains as leader, the whole NEC will have to resign and there will be elections for a new NEC.  Should the majority vote to endorse the NEC, Bolton will have to go as leader – but:  will he, or will he cling on? We’ll know in five days …

 

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Vivian is a UKIP patron, Vice Chair of UKIP Cardiff and Editor in Chief of UKIP Daily

53 Comments on About that EGM …

  1. The man is a wrong’n. He’s a Lib Dem he doesn’t believe in putting our nation first he’s just a wrong’n

  2. I am unsubscribing from these newsletters which seem to be not balanced at all. I fear for the future of UKIP if they continue to lose leaders elected by the members.

    • Would you please be so kind and describe to us how you think a ‘balanced newsletter’ should be like? With examples? Thank you.

      • I think it means that the Editor-in-Chief must be biased, Viv – like the Guardian and other amusingly one-sided publications.
        You really must ‘re-educate’ your commenters so that they think in a different way.
        This is the 21st Century – people are no longer allowed to have opinions – off to the Gulag you must go, Viv – sorry!

  3. UKIP is not the story at the moment. The story is Bolton’s girl friend.

  4. Looks like this EGM is going to be the present chairman’s swansong.

  5. Floreamus pueri….

  6. Question for the UKIPDaily staff:

    If Bolton were to win would you guys leave the party?

    • Being a member of UKIP Wales, I’d stick with my Welsh colleagues. After all, we do have 5 ½ AMs … these are elected representatives, elected by the Welsh people. So we’ll have to see what the Welsh members will do. A Unilateral Declaration of Independence from the Bolton Party, perhaps?

    • I would hope not, all the more reason for members to stay behind and elect a new NEC which as they say are the representatives of grass roots members they will have to have a second bash at getting rid of him and also deny him funds to fritter on policies he will not have discussed or submitted for their approval previously.(and obtained it)
      He will also as I understand it be unable to change the functioning or rules of the NEC without another EGM and even then it would require a 2/3 majority.
      I`m a bit worried that Oakeypokey might not have made a Freudian slip in signing himself Interim Leader – I cannot see that event could happen, since I expect him to vanish at the same time as HB i.e at the meeting pronto.
      Take a tip from Henry – NEVER RESIGN

      • Dear Roger,
        NEC elections are due before May anyway. If Mr Bolton wins then all the NEC seats are up for re-election to all members including any existing NEC members that may wish to stand.

      • See his latest mail – he has resigned as chairman, and Saturday will be his last hurrah.

    • No comment – let’s see what happens on Saturday (and I’m really looking forward to it!)

  7. I hope the chairman will have some sort of a collection box at the entrance into which we can put a few pennies (or pounds!) to help defray the cost of the meeting. We know the party is in dire straits financially and I for one wouldn’t mind making a donation towards this obvious show of democracy.

  8. Good article! But, too much Bon Jovi?

    “quod licet Jovi non licet bovi” is persuasive given how we spell Jove in English, but it is wrong. Correct is “quod licet lovi, non licet bovi”.

    By the way, our trans-pond cousins render it as “American exceptionalism”. One set of rules for them, another for the riff-raff.

  9. Will he cling on? He said on Marr that the game would be up if he loses…

    • Interesting. The game will certainly be up, he’s right – but what will he do? Concede?

      • Could there be a secondary reason why this event is being held in the West Midlands?

        In most of the South-East of the country (i.e., the three administrative regions which comprise 45% of UKIP’s plummeting membership – London, South-East and Eastern) it would be a lynching.

        • Dear Freddy

          The Geographical centre of the country is an ideal place to hold such a crucial event. It does you no credit to suggest an anterior motive. Stories that Alan Bown is paying for. coachloads of NEC supporters (are there really that many as to fill a coach?) to turn up and sway the outcome are rife. As far as the ‘lynching’ is concerned, that is an unfortunate and inappropriate term to use, but if our southern Membership is so opposed to Henry’s continuing existence as leader, then there’s a very simple solution, see you in Brum on Saturday with the rest of
          the ‘lynch mob’. And please let’s not forget where party conferences tend to be located. The Midlands and the North are the true hunting grounds of UKIP in future elections so it makes sense, at least occasionally, to recognise that.
          I know that whatever the outcome, as the Cole Porter song says, “there may be trouble ahead”, but win or lose, steps must be taken immediately to oust and exile some of the many mouthpieces that have served only to sow seeds of division and mistrust, promote their own crumbling claims of leadership or massage their overinflated egos. I will be supporting Henry Bolton and I’m equally sure that many in the West Midlands and the North will not, but unless a Strong leader emerges post EGM we will sink without as much as a ripple. See you Saturday 🤭

      • I believe he would be in an impossible position to concede.
        He will be” hanging by his heels” at that juncture.(Ref: prescription from the great Andrew Marr himself)
        That`s supposing there are some old fashioned lamp posts left in Brum

    • Perhaps he meant the game would be up for UKIP as I’m sure if he loses he will still attempt to damage the party out of spite.
      I guarantee he will rush to the media as he is doing now to keep the pot boiling and his ego polished. We may need to find an 18 stone woman to sit on his chest for a few days afterwards until he gets used to not being the leader anymore.

      • Ring up the same bloke that won this years version of the Apprentice he knows a 18 stone woman with a police costume who likes to strip!

  10. Anyone supporting Bolton now must need their head examined.

    • Oh dear! How very …. funny, ha-ha.

      • Oh dear. I heard it live.

        • Tell us more!

        • Freddy, I heard it too, and took notes. There are more inconsistencies , see if you agree. At 13.50 into the broadcast he talks about his Sandhurst degree.
          Now originally, on Linkedin ( oh yes he did…) he claimed 2 x BAs . 1 from Sandhurst and another from the City and Guilds. I have ALL the original screenshots and also those from his leadership campaign CV. So does Viv. As we all know, neither Sandhurst nor City and Guilds can grant a degree.. However on LBC, the 2 degrees have just became 1. He stated that the Sandhurst commission was the City and Guilds NVQ Level 6. So, he ‘doubled up’ and made this 2 degrees on Linkedin – did he lie about having 2 separate degrees as he has always repeated this until he just slipped up with Ferrari ? Next , the stipends. ( I took careful notes ) He stated he had received a TOTAL of £ 7500 since September of which £1800 were expenses. This is completely inconsistent with what John Bickley has stated. Bolton also categorically stated that he had had no stipend for ‘5,6,7,8 weeks’ . ( So when then? ) Freddy, see if your interpretation is the same as mine? Can we also hear from John please ?

          • Yes.

            And, when in a hole dot dot dot.

            > Can we also hear from John please ?

            Which John? Bickley?

            Within UKIP, I’m in regular contact with a lot of Johns… more than I first thought. (Do read that carefully till Penny drops her whatevers).

          • He also said on LBC in January that what attracted him to Jo Marney was that she got 4 GCE A levels at age 15. This she has been unwilling to confirm. So in short, they appear to be a good match, the pair of them, living in a fantasy land of their own design.

          • Mr Bolton is conveniently forgetting to mention that from the Party in total he has received c.£14k

            I have already stated in my report to branch treasurers that whilst there was an offer of a stipend for Mr Bolton (finances permitting) it was to be discussed and ratified at an NEC finance meeting on Jan 8th. Mr Bolton accidentally came into that meeting and upon hearing what it was about announced that he didn’t expect any payments due to the current circumstances i.e. Marneygate. There were a number of witnesses that heard his proclamation.

          • Actually Marney corrected the 4 A levels at 15 , to 16. I believe that, as she is intelligent and she did go to a good school. It was Bolton who said 15… because he’s Bolton.

      • Viv,

        They do say ‘love is blind’.

      • Was one of Marney’s GCSE’S in MATH as she seems good at spending our money Like Bolton does?

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