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Letters to the Editor – Wednesday 22nd November 2017

The first letter, by Mike Hookem MEP, draws attention to the relentless destruction of our fishing grounds even after Brexit, because the CFP is still not taken out of May’s ‘Great Repeal Bill’:

Sir,

MEPs had two chances to ban the outrageous practice of electro-pulse fishing, that is blamed for laying waste to fishing grounds off the South-East coast of England, but chose instead to support Dutch fishing.

MEP’s were asked to vote on two amendments to the Common Fisheries Policy (AM 614 & 615), which sought to outlaw electro-pulse fishing.

‘Pulse’ fishing is a form of beam trawling that trails electrodes along the seabed to send electric pulses through the sediment to capture the flatfish that live in it. However, the controversial practice – already banned in China – has been blamed by fishermen for damaging non-target fish stocks, wiping out gastropods, and breaking the backs of cod.

Research seen by some fishermen also suggests that electro-pulse fishing could be causing tumours in some fish species. However, this information is not currently available in the public domain.

One South-East fisherman, Paul Lines – who has seen the research – said: “When we fish outside of the 12-nautical-mile (NM) zone, it’s a desert! Everything is gone, there are no gastropods left. It’s all been wiped out and going beyond the 12 NM zone is a waste of time.”

Regarding the votes not to outlaw ‘pulse’ fishing in British waters: fishing with explosives, poisons or electric is outlawed under European law. However, an experimental licence to use this method was granted to Dutch fishermen in 2007.

Under the terms of that licence, no more than 5% of the Dutch beam trawling fleet should have been converted to pulse fishing, which in 2007, would have amounted to 22 vessels. However, despite a reduction in the number of Dutch beam trawlers in the last ten years, there are now 84 vessels operating pulse systems, mainly in British waters.

In my view, the conversion of these trawlers is in direct contravention of the terms of the experimental licence, yet no sanction from the EU has been forthcoming.

I also believe the practice of ‘pulse’ fishing to be in contravention of EU commitments to end destructive fishing practices by 2020.

Fishers around England’s South-East coast tell me that much of their traditional catch has simply disappeared since the introduction of this fishing method, as it is not only killing fish species like cod, it is also exterminating the ecosystem they rely upon.

While much of the Dutch ‘pulse’ fishing operation takes place in British waters, little research has been dedicated to it in the UK. Instead, we have to rely on Dutch research – sponsored by their powerful fishing lobby – which seems to promote the benefits of pulse fishing without looking into the negatives.

This situation has left many fishermen in areas such as Lowestoft and Ramsgate facing bankruptcy as their traditional catches have all but disappeared.

The fact is, the practice of ‘pulse’ fishing must be stopped before it lays waste to any more of Britain’s fishing grounds and forces more businesses into bankruptcy.

That is why I am now exploring the option of launching an official complaint against the Dutch in regard to this matter.

For me, the situation with the Dutch fleet eradicating large areas of Britain’s traditional fishing grounds, is a prime example of why we need to leave the CFP, reclaim our fishing grounds, and implement our own rules in our own waters.

But despite our vote to leave the EU, the rules surrounding electro-pulse fishing are included in the same technical measures that fisheries minister, George Eustice MP, recently announced to Parliament that the Government would be keeping under Theresa May’s so-called Repeal Bill!

As far as I’m concerned, the sooner we reclaim our waters and make a clean break from the CFP, the better. The fishing industry must be removed from the Great Repeal Bill and be treated as a standalone entity in the post- Brexit era.

Respectfully, Mike Hookem MEP

Funny how our MSM and animal-loving remoaners are so oblivious to this …

Next, another coruscating letter from our correspondent Septimus Octavius, this time on Ireland:

Sir,

for some reason I completely fail to understand, one of the three “prerequisites” the EU seeks to impose before “trade talks” can commence is that the UK comes up with a solution to the “problem” of the Irish border.

There is no problem!  The “solution” is childishly simple. The UK needs only to notify the EU that there will be absolutely no change whatsoever to the seamless, frictionless, free trade operation of the border which exists at present. This is the principle of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. There is no possible reason why anyone on the island of Ireland could object to that, and how could anyone on the EU side argue with it, however irrational and arrogant they are?

The beauty of this is that Eire will remain hook line and sinker trapped in the EU post-Brexit, and as such will be well and truly imprisoned by all the strict rules of the single market and the customs union.  As such it will be absolutely forbidden from having any trade deal with the outside world which is not wholly common with the entire EU.

Eire thus provides the key to unlocking the door to the “trade talks”, because there will be nothing to talk about! If the UK was not a member of the EU, and was seeking a trade deal with the EU, of course the process would be messy, tortuous, and never-ending.  However, that is patently not the case. An excellent trade deal already exists between the UK and the EU, and of course the Eire “solution” would ensure that this trade deal also will remain wholly unchanged post-Brexit.  It is that very same principle of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” writ large. As it happens, of course, for the EU, it also pulls the rug from under their feet with regard to their current attempt to blackmail the UK. This is why I am at a loss to understand why the EU has insisted that the Irish border issue is a “prerequisite”, when in fact it is a deal clincher.

Curiously, Michel Barnier does appear to be one person who twigged this trap the EU were laying for themselves. When it first emerged a couple of months or so ago, he came out with the odd comment that Eire could not be used as a “test case”. What he was saying, in effect, was that Eire was not “one of the 27”, which is simply not true. The phrase “clutching at straws” comes to mind, but here there weren’t even any straws to clutch at. More to the point, however, no change to the free trade arrangement is exactly what everyone actually wants!

Add this to the fact that no deal means no “divorce bill”, and the UK has a golden path to a satisfactory agreement laid out before it, holding all the aces.

Respectfully, Septimus Octavius

Finally, an appeal by the -new- Membership Secretary of the Mid Sussex Branch. Any information – either here on UKIP Daily as comment post, or in a private email to viv@ukipdaily.com (which I’ll forward without the sender’s email address) will be extremely welcome, especially since many other branches would profit hugely from such exchange of information:

Sir,

Declining Membership:

I have been to the top, no luck there, now I have come to the bottom. Has anybody got any suggestions or practical ideas on how to gather in some new members, preferably the age group that Mr Corbyn is chasing around our colleges? I have just taken on the job and would appreciate any helpful thoughts you may have!

Respectfully, Barry Noldart,

Membership Secretary, Mid Sussex Branch

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20 Comments on Letters to the Editor – Wednesday 22nd November 2017

  1. Philip Hammond; “We’re building the homes Britain needs, increasing the number we deliver to 300,000 a year. And we’re taking a balanced approach to our economy by dealing with our debts while investing in our country.”

    Our population growth is now on a par with third world countries. It is unsustainable, for example; we are having to have water meters to help prevent a water shortage, the health service is having to expand and has become unsupportable and unaffordable. I am told that if all illegal immigrants returned home, that there would be plenty of housing. It also seems that we natives of the UK seem to be the last in the queue for social housing.

    This Conservative Government is not the Conservative of old, it is doing it’s best to get to the left of Labour as a socialist Party.

    It has destroyed perfectly good and pollution free Coal Power Stations on the excuse of manmade Global Warming.
    It is a proven fact that the Global Warming is also taking place on Mars and Jupiter, shown to be fraudulent by the leakage of emails by the University of East Anglia, shown to be fraudulent as a Carbon Credit scam sponsored by the late Ken Lay CEO of Enron and popularised by Al Gore whose own dark past is also an inconvenient truth. Global Warming is taking place but only because we are still exiting the last ice age. When the next ice age arrives we will be in deep snow and deep trouble.

    Then there is the vast wind farms put up by the mainstream parties yet to yield cheap electricity, that is rather strange.

    We need UKIP to bring about a real right wing government, that is not corrupt, puts the country first, without the scams originating from the USA and perpetuated by the EU.

  2. Patience. UKIP will revitalise. There is much to do. We are working on it.

  3. Re: Ireland
    I agree with Septimus here, the EU is demanding that the UK ‘sorts out’ the border issue with Ireland, while the UK should be insisting that the solution is a favourable ‘free trade agreement’.
    “Lets talk trade and the Irish border issue will solve itself”.
    But under no circumstances, should there be any freedom of movement of people involved, or at the very least it should be restricted to holders of Irish and British passports only (maintaining the Common Travel Area), who should be able to easily obtain visas for work purposes.
    Irish citizens currently commuting to work in Northern Ireland (or vice-versa for example) should be automatically eligible for a work permit visa. Ireland must not become a ‘backdoor’ entry access point to the UK, ie by allowing other EU citizens to obtain Irish passports.

  4. Re: declining membership

    JRE used to have an idea for a reduced membership fee of £10 for what he called, if I remember correctly, “electronic members”. The idea was you would only need to pay £10 membership if you agreed to receive all communications from the Party by electronic means and not by post.

    He reckoned UKIP would actually make money out of this through saved postal cost and increased membership. I have no idea whether this is true or not.

    Another idea is to actually give people a reason for joining. The admirable Sebastian Handley thinks that if UKIP had a million members we would get Brexit tomorrow. This is why he recommends all Brexiteers join UKIP even if they don’t intend to vote UKIP.

  5. Declining Membership:

    As a UKIP voter I have been waiting on the sidelines as a prospective member of a revitalised UKIP after the disastrous election performance. My last hope was that the new leader would be the one to accomplish that change and face up to all the issues that we face in preserving Britain for the future. That has not happened and it seems unlikely that it ever will.

    At least now I have certainty and will not be joining UKIP. Instead I will be looking to give my support to a new party promised here:

    therightwaycampaign.wordpress.com

    Maybe I will meet some of you there…

    • Of course we’ve already met David. So far so good ! After reading Henry’s e-mail posted this afternoon I suspect that there may well be more with us shortly.

      • Surely this new organisation of UKIP will require a new constitution (major changes of responsibility). Where does this leave the NEC? No mention of members policy ideas being considered or how if at all. Hmmm.

  6. Ruth Kenward, Bognor Branch // November 22, 2017 at 1:22 pm // Reply

    Hi Barry – A few notes re encouraging new members – (1) Ask all committee members and all your volunteers who are out leafleting, to keep a couple of membership forms in their wallet/handbag/car so they will always have one to hand, should anyone they get chatting to show an interest in UKIP (2) Always encourage people to join, be proactive – dont wait for them to ask you. (3) When you have a street raid and of course, when you put up your marquee at fetes, do ensure you have a supply of photocopied membership forms available and try to sign people up. (4) The first year’s membership subs go to the branch not to HQ, so you can be flexible about the price in the first year (5) Ensure your membership application form has a section for donating by standing order. The bog standard form does not, so (with HQ’s agreement!) I re-wrote it for Bognor Branch and can send you a copy if you like (6) Make sure your website/FB page has an application form on it and – this is crucial – make it easy for new members to pay by electronic banking. Nobody bothers with cheques nowadays, and if they cannot pay instantly they may forget to join at all or change their minds, so you must arrange things so they can make an instant transfer of funds to your Branch’s bank account. Set up your website and FB page so they can pay there, online or just publish your bank account details. (7) Talk to your local representative of Young Independence and, if they will let you, offer to give a presentation at Freshers Week at colleges/universities. (8) Ask all your existing membership to sign up their friends and other family members. (9) Whenever you find someone sympathetic to UKIP (eg when you are out collecting signatures on election nomination forms or canvassing at election time, especially in Residential Care Homes) ask them to join (10) Write regular letters to the local paper giving the UKIP point of view on local & national issues, and give your contact details in that letter. Good luck! As far as I can see, membership has been falling since 24 June 2016 countrywide, and certainly in West Sussex.

    • Dear Ruth (Kenward),

      It’s lovely to see you posting here … and such a lot of good sense.

      If Surrey produces a Spring 2018 newspaper will Sussex join in the project?

      There is so much good material on this website that can go into a newspaper (not least the disgusting story about electrocuting fish).

      UKIP used to issue a central newspaper until 2005 when it suddenly stopped. Surrey (Peter Lindsay) then began producing newspapers.

      Why the highly competent, literate and entertaining NEC members and MEPs do NOT produce a newspaper is a mystery. But, while they don’t, Surrey invites all counties to collaborate.

      If anyone wants detail of our newspaper writers and chairman, please phone me.

      Regards, Toby, 01932-873557, Treasurer, UKIP Surrey.

  7. Re third letter, to be honest unless the party becomes more populist and in tune with people like Paul Joseph Watson who has a million young people following him on youtube then you will find it hard to break through as we don’t talk about the issues that concern young people, and we certainly don’t talk in a way that interests them. I feel it must happen over multiple branches, not branch-by-branch, so that you can get a critical mass, and need to get them interested in intellectual issues like free speech, globalism, etc not specific things like fishing rights. You need to find one young guy to lead it for you, but not set up separately like YI, and to connect them to other like-minded young people from multiple branches. Then they can start the twitter and facebook account (which you also need to monitor!). But I would also think about timing, unless party has its act together more then what are you going to say to them? And don’t forget the social aspect, a lot of young people of UKIP persuasion are isolated and like to be connected to similar people.

    • “…we don’t talk about the issues that concern young people”

      UKIP doesn’t talk about issues that concern an old git like me either – although they did a few years ago. With the exception of David Kurten and Gerard Batten – radical and fearless but appear to be sidelined by the party.

    • I really like your ideas. I will propogate them in my limited circle. They would require some sort of solidity though ( like an organisation. Not a random collection of unknown Political experts. We need a driver. Otherwise all our help and ideas just dissipates. ). Unfortunately for everybody, you, me, BN, and all the rest of us sheep, Shepherd doesn’t appear to be doing his job. Which unfortunately, as previous incumbents have found, requires an infinity of actions and serious cleverness. Just handing out jobs is what the man on the street thinks does it.
      Unfortunately Henry, get your finger out.You’ve got another 5 weeks then I go. ( after 26 years of help and influence). I suggest you start using UKIPD.
      I do enjoy mixing metaphores.

      • I agree, Mr Spokes, we need an organisation that can do for UKIP membership what Momentum have done for Labour Party membership.

        Given the UKIP constitution and rule book it would need to operate completely outside the formal UKIP organisation. It would need a leader. I nominate Graham – he seems fairly sound from his posts on here.

      • I’ve left already. Not really because of Henry, more the people who think they own the party and use everyone else. The donors, Mills and Boon in particular, and the fools that enable them. Henry could have perhaps maintained my enthusiasm, but so far he seems so conventional and dull. I have no pride in saying to people I am a member of a party run by these kinds of people and led by HB. With Nigel we had a lion, and to imagine, if Raheem had taken over, we would now be flooded with young members. Instead the donors and their clique made him unwelcome and now our average age of a member must be 65. Too bad, I contributed over £1,000 in the last year, went campaigning across the country, held branch together, but finally I just didn’t see anything or anyone in the party worth fighting for anymore.

  8. Mike. What is your reply to the government’s response to your petition that we leave CFP in March 2019?

  9. BN,
    1. Corbyn appears to have captured the state sector.
    Unsurprising really. The kids end up being taught and believing that if you speak with passion, sensitivity and interrupt and shout, you must be right. They no longer have the tools. they’ve lost logic( Maths etc),Ethics ( Christianity ), communication ( Being taught out of them ) ( Try asking them to reduce the no of words in a message. They’re good at adding more! ) and so on.
    2. The private sector as a result has grown enormously to dominate the old proper universities.

    3. So, look at talking to this sector and don’t waste your time or money on lost causes.

  10. Re: Declining Membership

    An apology to those branded Nazis and BNP types might be a start.

    Frankly though I think it’s all over for UKIP.

    On a side note I listened to Henry Bolton on LBC this Monday morning with Nick Ferrari. Whilst I agreed with a fair amount of what he said I have to be honest I just zoned out. His tone and approach just doesn’t maintain your attention. Your average lay caller sounded much more engaging.

    • AMW says that UKIP is terrified of the MSM. There is your problem with membership at root.

      • A good example of this is Henry tweeting he was happy to see the Serb leader jailed for life. The Serbs have sufferred horribly in the war of Yugoslav succession and then Kosovo. They were fighting jihadis from across the muslim world, arabs, chechens. Henry should at least make clear that it wasn’t just Serbs committing atrocities. He should at least say ‘good, but now lets see others also face justice’ or something like that. He makes it seem so one-sided. If we were living where the Serbs live we would be in exactly the same situation as them and doing the same thing they had to do to survive. They defend the southern border of Europe and we should recognise their contribution to OUR safety. Time and again in history they have stood firm against invaders whilst we have been sealed off on our island, yet we take the moral high ground.

    • Following a year of doing nothing except being embarrassed we are still on 5%.
      This is according to Kantar Poll(?). Lib Dems are only on 9%, and greens 3%.
      A good aggressive no nonsense performance on QT could start us off again.

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