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Letters to the Editor – Monday 3rd April 2017

Today’s first letter is from our reader, contributor and E-i-C Emeritus, Brian Otridge:


This Breitbart article by James Zumwalt drew out an analogy of solving fatal engineering failures (e.g. air crashes) with the failure of politicians to identify the root causes associated with Islamic “accidents” (i.e “lone wolves”) which of course appealed to me as an engineer.

The trouble is that our politicians and the media are not engineers. I am an engineer – I was taught to analyze problems, determine the root causes, address those causes and thus prevent or delay the impact of those causes. The people who solved the Comet problem (the four 1950s Comet 2 crashes caused by metal fatigue incipient in the aircraft design) were engineers too. Engineers are highly under-valued by society, although in Germany they are more valued but that still keeps them out of politics, perhaps because they can see through the fallacies of politicians and the media.

I threw myself at politics for 2 years hoping to make a difference. All I saw were those fallacies, the unreal world these people live in and it made me ill: physically. Withdrawn from the field of battle, but alive and well now, I despair for the lack of “engineers” in politics. There have been a few in our time, but precious few who had an open mind, an incisive analytical brain and a desire to prevent problems (and to not cause them) from happening. Names like Powell, Tebbit and Farage (he but only partially, I have to say) spring to mind, but very few others.

Respectfully, Brian Otridge

The next letter, from our contributor and reader Robert Henderson, is a pre-view of a Petition which Mr Henderson submitted in the wake of his article on the Vienna Convention on Treaties in UKIP Daily:


I have submitted a petition to the 10 Downing Street website. It has passed its first hurdle of getting 5 supporters and now awaits only the Panel’s says so. You might like to circulate it to UKIP members. I will let you know when it is live to the general public, assuming the panel don’t knock it back. Here is their reply:

Dear Robert Henderson, Your petition is nearly ready to go.

Peter Watson supported your petition – “The UK to use the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties to leave the EU now”. 8 people have supported your petition so far. We’re checking your petition to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we’ll publish it. This usually takes a week or less. Thanks, The Petitions team, UK Government and Parliament

The petition  will serve the immensely useful function of getting our cowardly and/or Quisling politicians to publicly justify their supine  acceptance of having the UK tied up in knots by a hostile EU for 24 months.
Respectfully, Robert Henderson
Finally, a letter by our reader and contributor Hugo Jenks:


Can Labour lose Gorton? The Gorton by election is to be held on May the 4th. This happens to be Star Wars Day.

Theoretically it should be a safe seat for Labour, however they have now lost the incumbency factor. A well-organised insurgent challenger could exploit their weaknesses, provided that the insurgent understands what the weaknesses truly are.

Unless and until UKIP can learn the lessons of the disappointing result in Stoke then it cannot be that insurgent party, I am sorry to say. The party needs to come to a rapid understanding of where its values lie, and then to communicate them clearly and consistency. Unfortunately too much muddled thinking on policy matters has been allowed to build up, and is causing anger and resentment amongst grass-roots members. Trying to serve two masters during the Stoke campaign was a contributor to the disappointing result.

For UKIP to win in Gorton will require a policy U-turn, with only a few days available to do that – time is running out rapidly. Then the remaining few weeks spent communicating that clearly and with conviction. Unfortunately I cannot see how Paul Nuttall can do this, given the contents of his “special” leaflet delivered to parts of Stoke, which was organised by the local branch not by the main campaign. A poor result in Gorton will be hard for UKIP to recover from, the party has already fallen behind the Lib Dems in the polls.

Labour can get away with sending mixed messages to different communities, UKIP cannot. The force can be strong again with UKIP, however only with the right policies, upholding British values rather than pandering to special interest groups.

UKIP has an important role – to save Britain and hence contributing to saving western civilisation. It cannot do so while the current muddled thinking persists.

Respectfully, Hugo Jenks


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19 Comments on Letters to the Editor – Monday 3rd April 2017

  1. Thankyou for all the responses to my letter.

    I do feel that time is running out for Britain. UKIP could have rapidly re-positioned itself as the party which can save the nation, however the opportunity has been squandered by Nuttall. Does he even understand how crass his “special” Stoke leaflet is? Does he not understand the feelings of grass-roots UKIP supporters?

    I am struggling to see what the purpose of UKIP is now that Brexit is on the way. Yes there is some role to keep the pressure on. However that is not going to win any extra votes. Once we are out of the EU within the next two years hopefully, UKIP with its current approach has no further purpose. Unless…

    Unless it can truly stand up for British values, and thereby save Britain. Being pro-Halal is de facto being pro-Sharia. Chasing the Muslim vote in Stoke was plain stupid. Who is going to turn this tragedy around? Somebody must step up right now. Tomorrow will be too late.

    UKIP will do badly in Gorton if the same approach is taken as in Stoke. Doing badly there will probably put the party into even steeper decline. Sorry about that.

    The two frontrunners are the lab candidate who is an islamic trojan horse and the Respect candidate ‘gorgeous george’ who just might upset the apple cart.
    This is a rock hard labour seat that prob voted majority Remain last year. Neither the con nor the libdem can shift it as voting is three tribes labour ie the 30% mulsim postal pkt, the 20% trendy lefty vote(white collar public sector), and the 10% working class unreformed vote( council housing towards Manchester City FC.). Manchester is increasingly multiracial and fragmented though its economy is far more bouyant than the the oldham/rochdale/heywood/ ashton hinterland. UKIP should try for the No Immigration vote but it won’t as it is increasingly gutless.

  3. Robert, I look forward to seeing your petition link and signing it before circulating it to Branch members.

  4. Yes, Brian, the link to that Breitbart article by Zumwalt apears on another page of this site(‘Respecting muslims and challenging islam’)and I read it there, and commented on it. It is a pity that more engineers don’t go into politics, but could they stand the fudge, folly and feeble-mindedness of politicians?

    The Big Question is: Are Theresa the Appeaser & Co really such very obtuse albatrosses, or are they treating us like fools when they go into denial mode? If it’s the former, we need to wake them up: if it’s the latter, we need to make it clear that we are not buying it.

    I’m sorry that politics made you ill, and I can understand why. There is so much that is very sickening about it, and the frustration is enormous. Sometimes I wish that I could be like the people who push by you in campaigns, saying “I’m not interested in politics!” I’ve tried, but it never works.

  5. Phil O'Sophical // April 3, 2017 at 4:57 pm // Reply

    The constituency is 30% Pakistani; Labour have chosen a Pakistani candidate; Labour will have floods of postal votes.

    • So 70% aren’t, Phil.

    • And I believe that the Labour candidate chosen went to Iran not long ago to participate in the anniversary celebrations of Ayatollah Khomeini gaining power and turning the whole country into a nightmare theocracy. Just the kind of bloke Jeremy Corbyn loves.

  6. Hugo I don’t even know where Gorton is. One thing I do know is there are no ‘safe seats’ for UKIP. The first step would be finding the candidate most likely to win. This would perhaps not be one of the current UKIP bigwigs. Finding someone who can prove that he or she lives there or at least knows where it is might be a start …

  7. Hugo,

    I have to agree. Nuttall must go after the fatal error of the Stoke leaflet. The longer that he stays the less effective UKIP will become.

    • He’ll go when the huge salary stops is my guess. By then……

    • Especially, Jack, because it makes a mockery of our arguments against the Islamization of Britain. Every time we try, the same thing will come up, the Stoke leaflet. If Nuttall really cared about doing the best for his country, he would step down in favour of the Deputy Leader. This one wouldn’t run away at a crucial time, like the last one did.

      • The Deputy Leader, Peter Whittle, stands up for Britain and British values. In 2012 he published a book: “Being British; What’s Wrong With It?” Of course, the answer was nothing at all, and he launched a diatribe against those who equated patriotism with racism and all that Leftard rot.
        Has Paul Nuttall said anything at all about that Stoke leaflet or apologised for it? Or explained how and why he thought it was OK to just ditch an anti-halal policy and replace it with a labelling one? If he has said anything of the sort, I have missed it.

        We could do without another leadership election, but if Paul were to hand over to Peter to run things, at least we could make (yet another) fresh start.

        • Panmelia, Peter Whittle has doggedly stuck to his message every time I’ve seen him on MSM. I don’t understand why people aren’t pushing for what would be a perfectly reasonable step down and hand over. Paul could just say family matters like he did when he was Deputy. I really rate Peter, and I think we could be proud of him.
          Whereas I can never be proud of Nuttall, or campaign for him.
          BTW you are so well read and informed – where do you get the time and still do anything else? I simply can’t keep up with everything I should be reading!

  8. Brian,

    I share your concern about our politicians; I think many must see it as being well paid by avoiding any real work. It would be good if they were required to have some proper experience, preferably as Engineers, but I’m sure other professions could contribute.

  9. UKIP is too scared to contribute to saving Western civilisation as far as I can see and its shunning of anyone pilloried by the MSM press like Marine just shows it. It thought being mealy mouthed to please everyone would do in Stoke. You get no respect from anyone like that.

    • It is very annoying that we have been hamstrung (no pun intended) by our useless Leadership – we have no message, we only have mixed messages unfortunately, apart from Brexit, and others have moved on. As you say, Mike, people can spot a sinking ship a mile off. UKIP Leadership are far too complacent, and have already been found wanting at Stoke. I just wish people would understand the huge damage that our Leadership did there, which we may never recover from.

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